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good afternoon from nasa's johnson space

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center welcome to the sts-133 mission

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status briefing i am joined today by

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tony cicacci he is the entry flight

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director for discovery's reentry

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tomorrow he's going to be giving us an

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update on what's in store and how the

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conditions look down in florida in terms

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of weather so go ahead tony okay thanks

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josh and good afternoon everybody

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it's great to be here and before you ask

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tim copper and i weren't riding bikes

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together just another

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little rotator cuff problem i had there

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but uh everything's doing fine thank you

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uh you probably heard this be from leroy

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uh in his uh

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uh briefing this morning so uh bear with

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me as i go through all this but we had a

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very uh successful flight day 13 morning

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as the crew

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got their self and discovery ready for

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uh entry tomorrow

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the crew woke up about 2 30 this morning

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hit the ground running as they usually

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do and put our typical uh intermission

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minus one activity activities uh we can

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completed the flight control systems

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checkout uh with no anomalies systems

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are ready for entry we did the standard

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rcs hot fire with no anomalies and all

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the primary jets are ready to support

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entry uh as the crew typically does both

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the commander and pilot performed

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landing simulations

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on utilizing the pilot laptop

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simulator and we got to see some video

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from that as both steve and eric were

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running through that and of course

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throughout the day crew is getting the

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uh vehicle itself ready for uh

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entry tomorrow as far as the mid deck

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flight deck and of course the air lock

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making sure it's all configured properly

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to support entry

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see

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what we did after the hot fire you

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probably heard we did a

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secondary payload activity called

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rambo 2 which is a ram burn observation

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2.

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basically we did three sets of plus x

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firings uh to help the dod folks get

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some

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on that and i didn't have any more

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detail than that

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if you have any questions let's see uh

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as far as later

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the activities later in the day we will

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be doing an orbit adjust about an hour

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from now

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uh to lower the perigee in it we're

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doing that to uh provide us a second

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opportunity at ksc tomorrow our plan is

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not to use it but it just gives us that

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capability and option up front

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if a fact we did have to wave off a rev

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before we came in we did standard

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l minus one contacts with myla

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basically checking out the uh

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hud video that we get from the crew also

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make sure we had good uhf with them and

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and good calm through the milo station

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support entry and later on

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i think in next about next hour so

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they'll be doing the same check with

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edwards just to check that link out

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later on in the day one of the last

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major activities the crew will have is

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uh to stow the ku

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band antenna

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uh get the payload bay ready for

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the ride home

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let's see uh as far as the tps i think

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leroy already told you this but uh

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the discovery is cleared for entry uh

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the engineering folks did a great job

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uh reviewing the data and they got the

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got that complete a little ahead of the

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i'll see i'll give you a quick story on

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the consumables and weather story

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right now we have the consumables to

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support out to end emission plus two

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as far as the forecast for ksc wednesday

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uh they're trending very well and uh

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looking very promising

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uh and with that and with the next day's

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uh forecast my plan tomorrow or the plan

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tomorrow is just only call up ksc

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and let's see if we needed an end to

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mission plus one for whatever reason we

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had to wave off tomorrow

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we'll you know mission one one will

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become pick em day basically uh we will

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come home and you know we have that

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opportunity to go to edwards ksc or

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northrop and we'll look at the weather

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and see what the best

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options are to do that

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see tomorrow's activities crew awakes

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central times georgia prep starts about

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we'll close the payload bay doors around

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and then uh the gonna go for the orbit

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burn will be around 9 30 central time

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see uh deorbit burn to ksc orbit uh 202

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is going to be around 9 30. let's see if

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we have the ground track for a kfc 202

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oh there we go

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let's see that one is for 202 right okay

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let's see basically uh i'll do a my

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quick summary here we're going to cross

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the western edge of central america of

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course near guatemala and el salvador

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uh towards the yukon and then uh

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west of cuba and we're heading on to

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florida crossing over sarasota lakeland

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and then uh saint cloud and then we'll

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head on our way to ksc

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let's see uh

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as far as like i talked about if for

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some reason we uh are unable to get to

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ksc 202 we have a backup opportunity

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uh kc orbit 203 and that tig is around

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the crew is doing really great probably

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saw from a lot of the downlink that they

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and uh they're having a good time and

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they're getting ready to to come home

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and that's all i have for you

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let's start off with questions here at

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jsc mark

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thanks mark caro for aviation week as uh

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is the forecast for the two landing

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opportunities in florida tomorrow the

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same basically throughout or is there

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any sort of change and uh what what does

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it look like for thursday if you had to

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wave off for some reason let's see your

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first party question what we've been

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forecasting mark

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for the last week or so uh

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yeah things are i mean things are

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tracking pretty well for the models uh

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one of the things we checked today is

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what the of course the current weather

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was around landing time today and that

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them it tracked what we were expecting

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and forecasting so we feel pretty

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comfortable with that and again you know

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it's florida and it's always 50 50 there

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but uh just based on what the weather

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comfortable uh thursday

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weather there's a front that's going to

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be around the florida panhandle and uh

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for the first opportunity we're

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concerned about uh possibly uh some

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anvils coming off that thunderstorm and

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we have some rules that we can't of

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course fly through any of the anvils and

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uh gina cinceri abc news for those of us

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who are watching your decision making

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tomorrow during entry tell me what

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systems you're monitoring and what input

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you're getting as you're making the

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decision whether or not to let

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discovery de-orbit

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let's see you know one of the big key

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things is what we did today the fcs

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checkout and hot fire so we we verified

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all the systems we require for entry are

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functional and available to us a couple

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of the milestones of course tomorrow is

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make sure we have a good rad

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cooling and the radiators and such to

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make sure we have a good cooling with

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that so that's one of our decision

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successfully and then basically from

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to watch the weather and then at that

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want to come home or not

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question all right let's go down to the

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kennedy space center for some questions

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if if for some reason you couldn't make

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that question is sometimes in the past

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flying again there's no pressing need

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little bit that you would come down on

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that yeah yes sir of course uh like i

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animation plus two consumables uh and

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emission plus one becomes uh basically

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call it a pick em day so we we are

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coming home somewhere uh unless we have

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a systems problem where we'd have to

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stay up another day but what we'll look

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at bill probably one of the key things

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is just to see how the weather forecast

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is at ksc and and

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determine if we want to go ahead and try

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to close the payload doors and get the

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crew in the suits early if we think ksc

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is going to be no go for the first

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opportunity or even the second will

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delay those decisions on just so the

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crew doesn't have to be

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in their suits uh for more than you know

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two or three revs

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so we'll look at the weather pretty uh

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pretty hard thanks and uh leroy was

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telling us give us a little review of

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fcs checkout this morning he mentioned

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you had a little avionics transit and i

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may have missed this if you mentioned it

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earlier but uh just give us a little

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update everything the condition of all

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the systems that you need for reentry uh

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channel again and we recovered it you

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see any shorts or any transient on the

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power

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the flight because i was paying

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flight loop when they were talking on

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the opo but they have seen this uh at

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one flight prior but the thing is you

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know we have four fcs channels even if

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we had that problem

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with that single

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atvc channel one

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we still have three others so we'll be

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able to do the

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main engine repositioning for that mach

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8 that we do to make sure we have a good

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clearance for the drag chutes and then

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be able to do uh post landing uh uh

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putting repositioning the main engines

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to raindrain

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so we're uh no problems right now thanks

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and the last question from here i'm

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sorry go ahead no no that was fine uh

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the last question from here uh you know

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today the theme seems to be talking

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about discovery's legacy and all that

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and everybody else in the world has been

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asked that question so i'm going to ask

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you uh you're the guy that launches it

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and lands it uh what are your thoughts

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about discovery bringing her down for

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the last time i'll give you the standard

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answer that all my buddies have been

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saying uh you know we know that all this

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this uh hoopla and

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historical milestones are going on but

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our focus right now is to make sure we

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have a a clean vehicle and we and we uh

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get the crew safely to the ground

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tomorrow and then once we get him out of

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the vehicle we probably will sit back

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maybe at some establishment and talk

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about

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the legacy and

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how wonderful uh this uh machine has uh

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okay i think that's it from the kennedy

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space center let's go to the phone lines

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we have robert perlman

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hi robert perlin with collectspace.com

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can you hear me yes we can go ahead

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wrong great um you know you just

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mentioned uh saving the reflection for

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after uh wheel stop and

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um

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and the crew earlier today said that

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while it's bittersweet that the landing

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should be a moment of celebration as

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well

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i wondered if there were any plans

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within mission control for

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any type of uh of celebration of the

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landing after wheel stop you know cigars

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being handed out or a cake or anything

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like that

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i think all i have planned is a standard

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handshake

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and

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we know we still have even though

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discoveries end in its uh

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its trip but we still have uh two other

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missions that we have to focus on

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so uh maybe it'll all hit us then year

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here when we're complete with all that

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but tomorrow it's just going to be the

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standard thanks to all the folks that

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have supported this flight

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and then

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we'll get ready for the next one here in

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okay

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i think that's it from robert uh james

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dean

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uh thank you very much uh tony

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recognizing that the conditions

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certainly could change quite a bit um in

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the next day i would just wonder if you

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could describe uh in a little more

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detail

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what you're forecasting right now and

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you know things hold up you know how

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they look right now just in terms of you

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know the general picture for winds and

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uh clouds is just kind of the scene that

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you hope to see there okay i can give

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you the forecast that the weather guys

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gave me this morning

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uh it looks pretty good uh

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scattered at 3 000 and the scatter decks

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we're looking at two to three ace

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coverage so uh

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that alleviates our concerns if that'll

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turn into broken we got scattered at

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twenty thousand feet good visibility and

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right now the winds are 120

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at 15 peaking at 21 which gives us

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a crosswind about peak of 12 and uh head

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and tail 12 peak and i'm sorry 12 peak

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17. with the current head and tail winds

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right now

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one five is the only

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available runway per the rules but we'll

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continue evaluate 3-3 and for some if it

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has good touchdown conditions and such

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and we need to go there we'll talk about

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that

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one of the good things i

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talked about i think mark asked that

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earlier that you know we kind of like

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looking at what our forecasts are and

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what the actual conditions are and today

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pretty much lined up with

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what the uh weather folks were

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forecasting so that gives us pretty good

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confidence that the models that they're

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looking at are going to

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continue to track with what they're

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predicting tomorrow

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but you know again it's it's florida and

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we'll when we come in tomorrow for our

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shift at 3 30 we'll see what we have and

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we'll work it accordingly

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so so um

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i didn't immediately catch all those

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wind wind numbers there is that is that

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kind of the thing to watch is that the

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concern oh no right now the winds are

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well below uh

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flight rules

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okay

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um we have someone flying a weather

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recon tomorrow uh yes cj sterco is uh

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the pilot out at ksc

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okay thank you

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okay let's go to andy cox with the

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weather channel

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hi thanks uh you can guess my questions

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about the weather um so a couple quick

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things um you know you said florida

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weather can change at the drop of a hat

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do you have the the general times or at

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least the number of opportunities that

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are be available on thursday

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uh yes uh

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thursday uh basically

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what we'll be looking at is uh all the

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three kona sites ksc edwards and

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northrup and we'll uh

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look at what the forecasts are for there

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again like i said if ksc it all depends

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on you know if cassie doesn't look good

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the first couple opportunities of course

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they're they're first in line then it's

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northrup and edwards are mixed in there

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but you know our number one goal is go

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to ksc

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just because they have all the support

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there and of course the families are

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going to be there too

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but uh if it doesn't meet our weather

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criteria

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and

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about if we wave off tomorrow if we want

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to bring northrop up if edwards is

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looking good for all the opportunities

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that might be the only uh site that we

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bring up

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and i should be asking you the questions

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about weather

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now you got you guys have a pretty good

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crew down there so yeah i sure do also

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you'd mention that uh 15 only 15 is

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going to be the only one available for

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tomorrow um what are the other general

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criteria that you guys use to select

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whether they go into 15 or 33 especially

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the weather side uh you know it's uh it

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all depends on what the uh

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the low-level winds are um as the crew

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is going around the hack and what kind

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of uh

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uh performance the orbiter itself has if

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it's you know low energy high energy uh

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you know when we when we we get the sva

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pilots to fly a couple dives and we ask

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them about what the you know what kind

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of turbulence it is uh what they think

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the best end of the runway is and the

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crews take their advice on which

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direction to go and when things are

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pretty even you know we will pick what

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the best uh with sta folks recommend but

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unlike in this case right now

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uh what we're predicting the

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133 is no go due to just the

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forecast winds but like i said we'll go

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through and run all the

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the uh predictions and such and if it if

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we have good touchdown predictions and

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and we ask the sta if it's a if it would

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be a good runway to go to we could also

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include that as part of our toolbox uh

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and possibly use that end if required

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all right thanks

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okay i think that's it on the phone

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lines anything back here in houston at

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all

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okay we'll wrap up today's briefing tony

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and his team will be on console uh for

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discoveries entry at 3 30 a.m central

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time a nice legion

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extra 30 minutes for us but we'll take a

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look at exactly what the weather's doing

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in the morning and of course we'll have

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all the latest information on nasa tv

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during our commentary and you can also

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follow along at nasa.gov we're going to

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send it back to mission control now for